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【挖】对不起,Guinness,还是不能放过你

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大概看了下,貌似很有料,回头仔细看下再翻译
印象最深的是文章里说 alec本身是个很糟糕的人,但是他的确是非常努力的像变好,只是有时候终究还是抵不过自己恶毒,刻薄的一面



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Sorry Alec, I couldn't let you off the hook
He charmed the 'nasty' Alec Guinness, and then dissected him in a biography that outraged critics. How could the gentleman author Piers Paul Read do such a thing? David Thomas meets him.

David Thomas
12:01AM BST 07 Oct 2003
Piers Paul Read is not a movie buff, still less a theatre-lover. "I would never read a biography of an actor, never!" he declares in a quiet, rather donnish voice, in which the faintest trace of his native Yorkshire occasionally shows through the gentlemanly patina of his accent.
So it comes as a surprise that Read should have been chosen to be the official biographer of Sir Alec Guinness, whose seven-decade career took him from playing Hamlet on the pre-War London stage to Obi-Wan Kenobi, in a galaxy far, far away. Guinness's face - round, jug-eared and quizzical - is staring down at us as we speak, for we are at Ealing Studios in a room decorated with posters for Guinness's quartet of Ealing classics: Kind Hearts and Coronets, The Lavender Hill Mob, The Ladykillers and The Man in the White Suit.
Like his subject, the 62-year-old Read has a meticulous, yet somewhat detached air about him. He is impeccably dressed in tie and beautifully-cut tweed jacket. His steel-grey hair is neatly brushed. His mouth turns down in repose and his blue eyes sit beneath sad, bassett-hound eyebrows. Yet he is by no means humourless, even if his wit is as fastidious as the rest of his personality.
Read is, in short, an unlikely muckraker. Yet this is how he was portrayed by outraged critics after a newspaper serialisation of his book that emphasised the more shocking elements of Guinness's life and character - his illegitimacy; his hatred of his drunken, feckless, thieving mother; his possible homosexuality and his cruelty to his wife Merula and son Matthew. An actor loved for his understated screen manner and gentle, witty volumes of memoirs was shown to have feet of clay. Read is clearly stung by the furore.
"People have suggested that I've sexed up this book to make it sell. But most of the stories about Alec's cruelty towards Merula and Matthew come from Matthew. My worry was that people were going to think I'm a Catholic covering up the flaws of a fellow-Catholic, doing a hagiography.
"I suffered severe anxiety to begin with, because I'd never written a biography before, nor shown any interest in actors. I was just worried I'd be completely out of my depth. The joy of writing the book was reading Alec's letters and diaries, because he wrote so beautifully well. And Merula's letters are charming, too."
It was Merula Guinness who chose Read to write her husband's story,shortly after his death from prostate cancer. At the time she, too, was suffering a terminal illness (the couple died in 2000, just 72 days apart). And so, says Read, "When Merula asked me to write the book, I didn't think, 'This is an interesting project.' I thought, 'I mustn't disappoint this dying woman.' "
The book makes it clear that Guinness felt threatened by the possibility that Merula might step out of his shadow. He insisted she abandon her own acting career, mocked the spelling mistakes in her letters, and criticised her cooking in front of dinner guests. But these were particular incidents within a long, essentially loving marriage and Read insists that the depiction of Guinness as an abusive husband is an over-simplification of a much more complex relationship.
"Alec was a nasty man trying very hard to be good. Because of his upbringing, he could be bitchy and bullying, and he knew it. He fought against it and to some extent succeeded. But where the will [to be good] isn't enough in those intimate, domestic relationships."
Read's ability to dissect Guinness's emotions suggests why Merula thought he was the right man for the job. Sure, he isn't a paid-up member of the luvvies' union. Nor do his many novels and works of non-fiction concern the entertainment world, although Alive! - his tale of the South American rugby team forced to eat their dead comrades after an air crash in the Andes - did become a Hollywood film. But, in his character and his Catholicism, he was perfectly suited to his task.
He was, furthermore, a friend of Sir Alec's. They had met in 1988, when Read went to interview the actor for a weekend magazine."I was told to take Alec Guinness out to lunch," says Read. "I rang his agent and the agent said, 'No, Alec will be taking you out to lunch. Please turn up at the Connaught at one o'clock.' "
Guinness, though charming, was determined to reveal nothing of his inner self to his interviewer. Yet something about Read clearly struck a chord for, even before the piece was published, Guinness invited him and his wife Emily to dinner, again at the Connaught. When asked why Guinness might have been so taken by him, Read develops the embarrassed hesitancy of a properly-educated public schoolboy, unavoidably forced to swank.


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"In his correspondence, he writes to his friends, and . . . and . . . you know, is, ummm, very complimentary about me as a writer. And we had our Catholic faith in common. He liked people who dressed properly, too, who were always punctual. He was quite old-fashioned and formal in that sense."
Guinness, says Read, was both the star and the director of their meals together. "I hardly said anything. He just chatted. He wanted an audience really. He was very kind, generous, good company."
Nevertheless, Guinness liked to remain in control. "He'd give you the menu and say, 'What would you like?' And you'd say, 'I think I'll have the pigeon pie.' And he'd say, 'No, no, you wouldn't like that.' He had a very clear idea of how things ought to go and he didn't like to be contradicted.
This determination to master his circumstances was Guinness's response to a chaotic childhood, in which he never knew the identity of his father (almost certainly a Scottish businessman called Andrew Geddes) and bitterly felt the humiliation of his illegitimacy. Yet his need to remain in control left Guinness isolated.
"John le Carré said that you could sense Alec craving affection, but woe betide you if you embraced him," Read recalls. "So many times, saying goodnight at the Connaught, you longed to give him a hug, but you knew you just couldn't."
That very isolation, Read points out, was Guinness's stock-in-trade. "Michael Redgrave said that Alec always acted as though he had a secret - and in fact he had many. One: his illegitimacy. Two: his mother's family, of whom he was bitterly ashamed and who were very low-class when he wanted to be a gent. And three: his homosexuality."
But was he, in fact, homosexual? Alec and Merula Guinness were married for 60 years. They loved one another right to the end, and their letters suggest that, in the early years of their marriage at least, theirs was a genuine, physical passion. But, Read reveals, Guinness's sexual ambivalence was apparent to those around them.
"Merula's father referred to Alec as a Billy Chappell (Chappell was a gay ballet-dancer and family friend). Alec was furious when he heard this. He didn't think he was gay and didn't want to be thought gay.
"According to Alec's son, he and Merula stopped sleeping together after the age of 40. Young people think that's a perfectly proper age to stop having sex, but," and here Read smiles with gentle self-mockery, "older people think it's rather young. And I think, from the films, if you see Guinness in clinches with gorgeous actresses, he's not enjoying it. He never convincingly suggests that he's longing to go to bed with women.
"I'm fairly sure in my own mind that after the end of the War, after his service in the Navy, what excited Alec were young men. His diaries refer to his visits to Turkish baths, suggest people making passes at him and talk about looking at young men, or going to gay bars in Malta. I think, though, that there was a sense of disgust at actual sexual contacts. It's quite possible that he simply hovered on the edge."
Guinness's sexual orientation may be open to debate. But Read has no doubt that his hatred of his mother, and his fury at the grief she had caused him, provoked a streak of genuine misogyny.
"He loved Merula, thought about her, cherished her, but every now and then this misogyny emerged and he lashed out at her. When they were on a British Council tour of the Mediterranean, just before the War, Merula broke her leg and Alec wrote, 'At that moment a terrible anger burned in me. Your accident made me sick. It was then I knew exactly how deeply I loved and valued you.' She had revealed to him that he was vulnerable, because he loved her so much, and he hated her for that."
If Read is convincing in his analysis of Guinness it is in part because there are elements of his subject's character with which he, too, can identify. "I can't compare myself to Alec in professional ways, but in personal ways I recognise a lot of myself in him. I love order, which Alec loved. I hate disorder.
"There was quite a lot of snobbery in Alec, and that's something I have in common with him, too. My family was slightly more secure than Alec's, but [we shared] this thing of wanting to be a gentleman, and being rather wary of anything that might associate you with hoi polloi."
Like Guinness, Read had a difficult relationship with his mother. "My mother was Mussolini. She was a terrible tyrant and bully. I have a streak of misogyny and Alec and I are both anti-feminist. That may be to do with my bullying mother. But I would also say it's to do with my religious faith.
"I grew up in the Sixties, the time of the sexual revolution, and it seemed very galling that it was deemed sinful to have lots of sex with lots of different people. Now, in old age, I think it has turned out to be right. Some of the Church's teachings are quite prophetic."
Merula Guinness chose Read in part because she believed that no non-Catholic would be able to understand her husband. Guinness had first become an active Christian during the war. At that point, he was a High Church Anglican. But, says Read, "even when he was an Anglican, Alec talked about Catholics as 'the crack regiment' of the Christian religion." Finally, in 1956, Guinness converted to Catholicism.
In Read's view, "he was suffering from tremendous bouts of depression, because of his homosexuality and the contradiction between that and his love of Merula and his family, and looking for a faith that would give him something to hold it all together.
"Cardinal Heenan read a profile of Alec in Time magazine and said that Alec Guinness talked about needing Catholicism in the way one might need a haircut. Alec was very offended by that. But, really, in a way, that hit the nail on the head. He wanted to find a religion that would help him, Alec Guinness, hold himself together, rather than finding God."
There was, however, nothing insincere or half-hearted about Guinness's commitment to the Church. He read The Bible and books of theology (as does Read), and regularly attended Mass and took Confession. This, says Read, was, quite literally, a mixed blessing.
"I love Confession - that feeling of guilt building up, clogging you up, and then going to Confession and having the slate wiped clean. When you receive your absolution, you feel absolved. And the danger, for Alec and for me, is that you feel that because God has absolved you, you don't have to worry very much about whether human beings have absolved you. You're meant to have what's called 'a firm purpose of amendment' and sometimes you feel that Alec's purpose of amendment wasn't as firm as it might have been when it came to being horrible to Matthew and Merula."
That sense of sacrament is as central to Read's work as it was to Guinness's life. Even Alive!, whose subject is, after all, the eating of flesh, carries echoes of Communion, eating the body of Christ.
Read gives a wry, very civilised laugh, as we conclude our conversation. "I got that book largely because I was Catholic, and I got this book largely because I was a Catholic. So, yes, there is a Catholic conspiracy!"
原文地址:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/3604065/Sorry-Alec-I-couldnt-let-you-off-the-hook.html


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皮尔斯·保罗·里德不是电影爱好者,更谈不上是戏迷。“我绝不会读什么演员传记,绝不!”他用平静甚至有点学究的腔调声明道,而他约克郡的乡音则不时透过绅士派头的语调露出一丝微小的痕迹。
七十年的演艺生涯将亚力克·吉尼斯爵士从战前伦敦舞台上的哈姆莱特变化为远在银河另一端的欧比旺·肯诺比,所以不得不说里德会被选为吉尼斯的传记作者纯属意外。伊琳制片公司的一间屋子里装饰着吉尼斯在该公司经典电影四重奏的海报——《仁心与冠冕》、《薰衣草山的暴徒》、《贼博士》和《白衣男子》。海报上的吉尼斯有着圆脸,招风耳,并用他那一向嘲弄的眼神注视着在屋内闲聊的我们。
与他的主人公一样,62岁的里德有着细腻又带有几分超脱的调子。他无可挑剔地身着剪裁精美的粗花呢夹克,配戴领带,银灰色的头发梳得整齐。他的嘴平静地闭合,蓝眼睛安于略带悲伤的眉毛之下。然而他绝不是没有幽默感的人,即便他的智慧与他其余的品质一样难以取悦。
简言之,瑞德不像那种刺探丑闻的人。然而传记开始在报纸上连载后,愤怒的评论人都以此讽刺他。书中着重了强调吉尼斯生活及性格中惊世骇俗一面——他的私生子身份;他对酗酒、软弱且有偷窃癖的母亲的憎恶;他同性恋的可能性及他对妻儿的苛待。一位以其朴素的荧幕做派,雅致诙谐的回忆录而受人爱戴的演员被暴露出了致命的弱点。瑞德无疑是犯了众怒。
“人们都暗示我是为了书的畅销而编排了那些故事。但事实上,其中大部分有关吉尼斯对马睿菈和马休残忍的一面的描述都是来自马休本人。我当时反而顾虑的是人们或许会认为我是一个掩饰教友缺陷的天主教徒,会把书写成一本圣徒传。
“最初我惶恐不安,因为我从未写过传记,更没有表现出过对演员的兴趣。我只是担心这会严重超出我的能力范围。写这本书最大的乐趣就是阅读亚力克的信和日记,因为他的文笔实在是优美。同时马睿菈的信件也属迷人。”
吉尼斯死于癌症后不久,马睿菈便选了瑞德为她丈夫传记的执笔人。当时她也承受着晚年病痛的折磨(夫妻二人都于2000年逝世,仅相隔72天)。因此,瑞德说:“当马睿菈要我来写这本书的时候,我想到的不是‘这是一项有趣的工作。’而是‘我一定不能让这个将死的女人失望。’”
书中明确地写出了吉尼斯对马睿菈可能会走出他的阴影的恐惧。他坚持让马睿菈放弃自己的演绎事业,嘲笑她信中的拼写错误,甚至在客人面前挑剔她的厨艺。不过这些都是在长年恩爱婚姻中的特定事件。但是瑞德强调,有关吉尼斯是一名恶语相向的丈夫的描述只是对两人极为复杂的关系过于简化的结果。
“亚力克是一个脾气很烂但是竭力想要变好的人。基于他被抚养长大的模式,他会是恶毒和恃强凌弱的那种人,他深知这点。他与其斗争甚至在某种程度上战胜了性格弱点。但是在至交和家庭关系中,这种意愿并不够强烈。”


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传记看了一百来页了,其实觉得还好,先不说伟大的演员不可能是我们通常定义的那种好人,即便以普通人标准评价,也在可以接受的范围内。当时的读者受到这么大刺激是不是因为把这些演员都想得太圣人/完人了,或者当时大家思想都太保守了。不得不说看这本传记真是太刺激了,就是不断被打脸的过程,现在读到宗教信仰那里卡住了=。=


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